Hi Bobby,
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and critique on this topic. I
appreciate the valuable arguments you have put forth. And it's
enlightening to see the other side of the debate and understand some of
the complexities involved.
I am with you on warning number 1! I think it will be great if the "fair
and silky" warning is not just restricted to rich and poor "arranged
marriage applicants" and the "AOM job applicants", but also to all the
job applicants in the corporate world. It will be great to see that
while planning marriage alliances in India and Nepal (that's where I
come from, so I can say only for those societies), "deeper" criteria of
human values, culture, family upbringing, and education is given greater
priority; and that jobs are offered to individuals, based on their
intellect, knowledge, capabilities and potentials; rather than the
"superficial", cosmetic, fair and silky, appeal! It's very good to know
that the HLL ad was banned.
I look forward to meeting you at the Academy.
Regards,
Aarti
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-----Original Message-----
From: Organizations and the Natural Environment Discussion
[mailto:
ONE-L@AOMLISTS.pace.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby Banerjee
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:11 PM
To:
ONE-L@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
Subject: Re: Base of the pyramid video
1. kai, it is probably a good thing i'm not in the job market because
sadly i have neither silky hair nor fair skin. perhaps we should pass
along this warning to job applicants at this year's AOM? or does your
scenario apply only to poor people and not middle class academics? and
far from second guessing choices that people make, a critique of BOP or
CSR would ask the question whether markets are creating an illusion of
choice. and whether selling shampoo or soap or skin whitening cream
does indeed reduce the poverty premium and enhance social welfare in
poor market segments. this is an untested assumption.
2. aarti, regarding your point about not blaming HLL because some
societies prefer fair skinned women. yes you cannot blame HLL for
societal preferences however discriminatory, racist or sexist they may
be but you can certainly blame them for exploiting those preferences,
even validating them as their ads for fair and lovely do (after the
government banned two of their ads showing that fair skinned people were
more successful in careers and relationhsips HLL pulled its ad campaign,
but still maintained that their product 'empowered' women). BOP
advocates also buy this line - skin whitening creams are about 'choice
and economic empowerment for women'. many women's movement groups in
india argue that the way to empower women is to alleviate their poverty,
make them financially independent, and provide better education. how
selling cosmetics is going to achieve this is a bit of a mystery. it
is one thing to exploit an existing prejudice, quite another to
reinforce it.
3. and you have raised some profound questions in your subsequent email
re: the role of corporations in addressing the millennium development
goals. yes, apart from cosmetics there are more meaningful products
(like clean water, sanitation, health care and education) that could
help address those goals. but the role of corporations in delivering
these products efficiently is problematic: case study evidence from the
privatization of water in south africa and bolivia for example tells us
that corporate takeover of water delivery had the effect of making
people poorer - water bills rose by 200% in bolivia after bechtel was
given the contract. in south africa thousands of 'structurally adjusted'
poor people had their water cut off after the government privatizated
water and deaths from epidemics like cholera increased after the water
supply was privatized because sanitation services worsened.
4. the issue is not whether a corporation is good or bad. yes there
are large markets in the BOP but which ones are profitable is the key
question. As Bakan argues, from a profitability perspective, it would
be difficult for any pharmaceutical corporation for example, to justify
manufacturing or developing drugs for treating malaria and tuberculosis
which are the leading causes of death in the poorer regions of the
world, despite the enormous social benefits of such a strategy especialy
when profit margins for drugs to treat baldness and impotence in
affluent market segments are significantly higher. corporations will
pursue or create profitable markets because that is what they think will
deliver shareholder value which remains the only imperative of
corporations as they are currently constituted, despite the rhetoric of
CSR, stakeholders and BOP. Edward Harness, former CEO of procter &
gamble was once asked about his perceptions of CSR. his memorable reply
'I am not aware of any bankrupt corporations which are making important
social contributions'.
5. meaningful social change (as opposed to finding evidence of whether
CSR leads to better corporate financial performance) requires
interventions not just at the level of the corporation but at the
political economy. as joseph stiglitz (once the blue eyed boy of the
neoliberal establishment and now a traitor to their cause) commenting on
IMF and world bank economic development policies during the asian
financial crisis of the 1990s said 'we did manage to tighten the belts
of the poor as we loosened those on the rich'. Another way to look at
the poverty premium perhaps?
cheers
bobby
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From: Organizations and the Natural Environment Discussion on behalf of
Kai Hockerts
Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 6:11 AM
To:
ONE-L@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
Subject: Re: Base of the pyramid video
I understand the concern about the BOP hype being
just a trick to help underperforming MNCs find a
way to boost tehir growth. However, there are three
concerns that I have with the BOP critique.
1) Imagine two job applicants. One with "silky
hair and a fair skin" and one without. The morale
for me is that we should not try to second guess
choices made by poor consumers. They have their
reasons. Even if we do not like them. As much as
we would like to be allowed to make our own choices
we should assume that the poor have enough judgement
to make their choices.
2) Also please note that contrary to public beliefs
many microloans are actually used to pay for (*gasp*)
consumption rather than microbusiness investments.
They help the poor cover a short period of time until
they can realise another income to pay off the loan.
Should microfinance programmes now run a check on how
money is spent? Should they punish those who use the
loan to buy MNC consumer goods?
3) Prahald's core hypothesis is that poor people
pay a "poverty premium" because compared with rich
people the products they can buy are often
- of lower quality
- at a higher price
- with less convenient distribution
Reducing that poverty premium will free time and
money that the poor should then be allowed to
spend as they see fit. Even if they want to do
so by buying Unilever products that we may find
superfulous.
That said I must admit that not all of Prahald's
examples are exactly uplifting. For example, one
can wonder whether Indians are really better off
just because Unilever/HLL's washing powder Wheel
tries to replace the Indian competitor Nirma.
Best regards
Kai
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Kai Hockerts, Associate Professor
Copenhagen Business School
Center for Corporate Values and Responsibility
Porcelanhavn 18a; DK-2000 Frederiksberg (Denmark)
Tel: +45 3815-3175, Switchboard: +45 3815-3815
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby Banerjee <
Bobby.Banerjee@UNISA.EDU.AU>
Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Base of the pyramid video
To:
ONE-L@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
> to quote the management guru whose prescription to solve global
> poverty is for the poor to consume their way out of poverty: ?When
> the poor are converted into consumers, they get more than access to
> products and services. They acquire the dignity of attention and
> choices from the private sector that were previously reserved for
> the middle class and rich? (Prahalad, 2004: 22).
>
> anyone hear harps and violins in the background'? of course apart
> from selling shampoo to the poor so that they can become middle
> class hindustan level also sells their best selling skin whitening
> cream 'fair and lovely' in smaller packages to the bottom of the
> pyramid. now what could be more empowering for the poor people of
> the world than to have both silky hair and a fair skin. talk about
> win-win.
>
> perfect segue into a not so subtle, even shameless plug for an all-
> academy symposium 'Can Doing Well by Doing Good Be Bad for Society?
> Critical Perspectives on Corporate Social Responsibility' which is
> scheduled for Tuesday, Aug 7 2007 10:30AM - 11:50AM at Philadelphia
> Marriott in Liberty Ballroom C.
>
(http://program.aomonline.org/2007/submission.asp?mode=ShowSession&Sessi
onID=909)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Organizations and the Natural Environment Discussion on
> behalf of David Levy
> Sent: Tue 6/26/2007 11:31 PM
> To:
ONE-L@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
> Subject: Re: Base of the pyramid video
>
> Aarti,
> you could try an experiential exercise as well - take in a bunch of
> single-use shampoo sachets, offer to sell them for 50c to the
> students,
> and discuss how this "can uplift society, boost economic growth,
> cater
> to the needs of the poor, and in the process contribute to
> sustainable
> development."
>
> (the shampoo example is from the original Base of the Pyramid book)
> I know that MNCs can be a positive force in development, bringing
> investment, technology, employment, and taxation, but these
> marketing-based strategies leave me very skeptical....]
>
> I would also be interested in resources, but only if they have some
> balance, and express the (widely shared) critique.
>
> David
>
> --
> David Levy
> Professor, Department of Management
> University of Massachusetts, Boston
> 100 Morrissey Blvd., Boston, MA 02125, USA
>
http://www.faculty.umb.edu/david_levy/
>
>