Lori,
Rob's response is enlightening. Presumably the plastics industry's
'truncation' of the LCA would externalize the effects of ingestion of
that low-value product by albatrosses, urban cows et al.
John
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From: Organizations and the Natural Environment Discussion
[mailto:
ONE-L@AOMLISTS.pace.edu] On Behalf Of Lori Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:14 PM
To:
ONE-L@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
Subject: Re: Environmental impact of producing/using paper bags vs.
plastic bags
Hello Jon and ONE List-Serve Members,
I consulted a local contact with extensive experience in polymer physics
research (my husband Rob Peterson, 3M Company) for assistance with this
question - taking it beyond my normal scope of 'business
sustainability.' Here is Rob's response:
A short summary
1. With the exception of a very new development between Braskem and Dow
to
produce ethylene from sugar cane ( ethanol dehydrated over alumina,
silica,zeolite catalyst), the feedstock for PE is petroleum
naptha/feedstock. The use of this feedstock, in a time of peak oil, to
produce a low technology, low value, short lifespan,environmentally
sensitive product is something the plastics industry has never been able
to
address. The plastics industry, along with others, desires to truncate
discussion of life cycle analysis to an abbreviated form, not the
entirety
of the issue, ( i.e. from raw material input through end of life
reassimilation into raw mateiral again, ref. 'Cradle-to-Cradle' by W.
McDonough. A paper bag comes from a renewable resource,does not have an
end
of life environmental hazard, and is naturally biodegradable.
2.I have seen eco-profile production cost for PLA resins ( renewable
resource based and compostable) , to be contrasted to PE, done by the
National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Golden, Colorado, ( ref.
Industrial
Biotechnology, Volume 3, 11/1/2007). Also reference LCA interest by
Ramani
Narayan @ Michigan State University on using biobased materials. He has
published much in this area.
Hope this helps!
Lori
Dr. Lori A. Peterson
Director, Augsburg for Adults
Augsburg College
115C Oren Gateway Center, CB 65
2211 Riverside Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55454
Ph. 612-330-1637
Fx. 612-330-1607
>>> Jon Entine <
runjonrun@EARTHLINK.NET> 6/9/2008 12:56 PM >>>
Request for help/advice...
I've been approached by a paper bag producing company...one that is
partnering with many progressive companies to produce post-consumer
waste
bags (such as for Whole Foods).
As one might imagine, plastic bag manufacturers are pushing back,
claiming
that when one does a life cycle analysis, plastic bags can be less
intrusive
to the environment than paper bags in both the production and use stage.
On the surface, the plastic bag company claims don't look supportable.
But
what does the data, if there is any, say on this??
I've been asked if there is any way to do this kind of scientific
analysis,
or whether it has been done and if so, by whom or what organization or
company?
Thanks for any help on this.
Jon Entine